PC has changed. I can't vouch for the current crop, but in all the fun and wildness, we maintained our pride, some dignity, and high standards. The "hate" part is due to perceptions, misconceptions, all based on single, defining but misleading life episodes. As a Presman, i had to straighten out a couple of them when they displayed real bad attitude one Saturday. So, let the current crop make their stand. We did our part, and while we may have been hated, we were feared and respected too. Lick dat!